Weapon damage stacking question (kind of) - Guild Wars Forums

AltFire · Aug 29, 2008, 11:59 PM // 23:59

Hello

I have a longbow that for the damage just says 11-17 cold damage (in blue). There is no other damage or enhancements. Normally you see #-# piercing dmg for a bow then any other stuff.

So my question is this: Is that cold damage in addition to the inherent damage (piercing?) of the bow or is that all you get?

Thanks for your time.

D

Covah · Aug 30, 2008, 12:09 AM // 00:09

It has an Icy bow string on it so instead of piercing dmg it does Cold dmg.

Blu · Aug 30, 2008, 12:10 AM // 00:10

The cold damage (from this mod) replaces the normal piercing damage.

Elder III · Aug 30, 2008, 12:57 AM // 00:57

the cold damage is replacing the piercing, so against mobs that are weak vs. cold you will do more damage, against ones that are strong vs. cold you will do less etc...

AltFire · Aug 30, 2008, 05:02 AM // 05:02

Thanks for the replies guys.

Ok so I look at the bow string and it just says "cold damage". So If I salvage the bow string and put it on another bow that does 11-18 piercing damage it will change that to 11-18 cold damage?

The reason that I ask is that I have a nice bow that has a lot of attributes and does 11-18 piercing dmg that I'd like to make even more powerful. but if it's just going to change the base damage from piercing to cold then it's just a wash and I won't spend the money.

Thanks

D

RPGmaniac · Aug 30, 2008, 06:12 AM // 06:12

Quote:

Originally Posted by AltFire

Ok so I look at the bow string and it just says "cold damage". So If I salvage the bow string and put it on another bow that does 11-18 piercing damage it will change that to 11-18 cold damage?

That is correct, good sir.

Brimstonez · Aug 30, 2008, 06:18 AM // 06:18

The only difference one can make with a bow, is the Hornbow. It provides a natural 10% Armor Penetration. If you were to add a Cold Damage String to this, you would have Cold Dmg with a natural 10%AP *not stated on bow*

snaek · Aug 30, 2008, 07:03 AM // 07:03

ur prolly thinkin of other typical rpgs
that have weapon bonuses like +3ice dmg

for gw, it only changes damage type
not add extra dmg

teh closest thing to adding more dmg is a vampiric bow string
which steals 5hp per hit

free_fall · Aug 30, 2008, 08:26 AM // 08:26

elemental damage is good against wariors, who have base 100AL vs physical damage (which includes piercing) but only 70AL vs elemental, whereas it is not as effective against rangers, who have base 70AL vs physical and 100AL vs elemental.

AltFire · Aug 30, 2008, 04:21 PM // 16:21

Quote:

Originally Posted by snaek

ur prolly thinkin of other typical rpgs
that have weapon bonuses like +3ice dmg

Guilty as charged. Too many years of playing Diablo.

MisterB · Aug 30, 2008, 05:41 PM // 17:41

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Originally Posted by free_fall

elemental damage is good against wariors, who have base 100AL vs physical damage (which includes piercing) but only 70AL vs elemental, whereas it is not as effective against rangers, who have base 70AL vs physical and 100AL vs elemental.

Warriors have 80 base armor, and 100 vs physical.

dilan155 · Aug 30, 2008, 06:47 PM // 18:47

yep it only change the damage type, never stacks. I prefer an ebon bow string(earth damage) against warriors and never a fiery bowsting. This is mainly due to many people expect fire damage, and to some degree cold damage but few people use al vs earth. Just my opinion.

Mykaal Avalon · Aug 30, 2008, 07:24 PM // 19:24

Going by the low dmg stats of the bows you mention Im assuming this is for low end pve. If this is the case then best to leave the bow at piercing. You only need to alter the damage type when facing specific mobs/areas, have specific builds that utilise fiery/icy/ebon etc. These you likely wont come across until much later in the game when you should have a max dmg bow by then.

AltFire · Aug 31, 2008, 12:11 AM // 00:11

Quote:

Originally Posted by free_fall

elemental damage is good against wariors, who have base 100AL vs physical damage (which includes piercing) but only 70AL vs elemental, whereas it is not as effective against rangers, who have base 70AL vs physical and 100AL vs elemental.

Where do you find that kind of information? Is there a place where you can see a list of the base AL of characters and armor?

Accursed · Aug 31, 2008, 01:01 AM // 01:01

The mod on your bow does icy damage besides piercing damage, so it only does the icy damage. Not the piercing plus the icy damage, sadly.

MisterB · Aug 31, 2008, 07:12 AM // 07:12

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Originally Posted by AltFire

Where do you find that kind of information? Is there a place where you can see a list of the base AL of characters and armor?

http://wiki.guildwars.com/wiki/Basic_armor

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AltFire · Aug 31, 2008, 05:49 PM // 17:49

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Originally Posted by Mykaal Avalon

Going by the low dmg stats of the bows you mention Im assuming this is for low end pve.

Guilty as charged.

Lvl 8 ranger/necro. This is my first character. Me and several buds have started the game at the same time. So we are working the coop campaign thru together for now. This is the first time on GW for us all.

AltFire · Aug 31, 2008, 05:51 PM // 17:51

Thanks for the replies guys, greatly appreciated.

Aug 29, 2008, 11:59 PM // 23:59	#1
AltFire Ascalonian Squire Join Date: Aug 2008 Profession: E/Mo	Weapon damage stacking question (kind of) Hello I have a longbow that for the damage just says 11-17 cold damage (in blue). There is no other damage or enhancements. Normally you see #-# piercing dmg for a bow then any other stuff. So my question is this: Is that cold damage in addition to the inherent damage (piercing?) of the bow or is that all you get? Thanks for your time. D

Aug 30, 2008, 12:09 AM // 00:09	#2
Covah Forge Runner Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Ontario, Canada Guild: Catching Jellyfish With [소N트T ] Profession: Me/Rt	It has an Icy bow string on it so instead of piercing dmg it does Cold dmg.

Aug 30, 2008, 12:10 AM // 00:10	#3
Blu Krytan Explorer Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Michigan Guild: Blades of Burning Shadows [GoDT] Profession: R/	The cold damage (from this mod) replaces the normal piercing damage.

Aug 30, 2008, 12:57 AM // 00:57	#4
Elder III Furnace Stoker Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Ohio Guild: I Will Never Join Your Guild (NTY) Profession: R/	the cold damage is replacing the piercing, so against mobs that are weak vs. cold you will do more damage, against ones that are strong vs. cold you will do less etc...

Aug 30, 2008, 05:02 AM // 05:02	#5
AltFire Ascalonian Squire Join Date: Aug 2008 Profession: E/Mo	Thanks for the replies guys. Ok so I look at the bow string and it just says "cold damage". So If I salvage the bow string and put it on another bow that does 11-18 piercing damage it will change that to 11-18 cold damage? The reason that I ask is that I have a nice bow that has a lot of attributes and does 11-18 piercing dmg that I'd like to make even more powerful. but if it's just going to change the base damage from piercing to cold then it's just a wash and I won't spend the money. Thanks D

Aug 30, 2008, 06:18 AM // 06:18	#7
Brimstonez Lion's Arch Merchant Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Earth? Guild: None Profession: E/	The only difference one can make with a bow, is the Hornbow. It provides a natural 10% Armor Penetration. If you were to add a Cold Damage String to this, you would have Cold Dmg with a natural 10%AP not stated on bow

Aug 30, 2008, 07:03 AM // 07:03	#8
snaek Forge Runner Join Date: Mar 2006 Profession: N/	ur prolly thinkin of other typical rpgs that have weapon bonuses like +3ice dmg for gw, it only changes damage type not add extra dmg teh closest thing to adding more dmg is a vampiric bow string which steals 5hp per hit

Aug 30, 2008, 08:26 AM // 08:26	#9
free_fall Wilds Pathfinder Join Date: Oct 2005	elemental damage is good against wariors, who have base 100AL vs physical damage (which includes piercing) but only 70AL vs elemental, whereas it is not as effective against rangers, who have base 70AL vs physical and 100AL vs elemental.

Aug 30, 2008, 06:47 PM // 18:47	#12
dilan155 Desert Nomad Join Date: May 2007 Location: living room Profession: N/	yep it only change the damage type, never stacks. I prefer an ebon bow string(earth damage) against warriors and never a fiery bowsting. This is mainly due to many people expect fire damage, and to some degree cold damage but few people use al vs earth. Just my opinion.

Aug 30, 2008, 07:24 PM // 19:24	#13
Mykaal Avalon Pre-Searing Cadet Join Date: Nov 2006 Guild: O L D S C H O O L [nubs] Profession: A/	Going by the low dmg stats of the bows you mention Im assuming this is for low end pve. If this is the case then best to leave the bow at piercing. You only need to alter the damage type when facing specific mobs/areas, have specific builds that utilise fiery/icy/ebon etc. These you likely wont come across until much later in the game when you should have a max dmg bow by then.

Aug 31, 2008, 01:01 AM // 01:01	#15
Accursed Wilds Pathfinder Join Date: Sep 2007	The mod on your bow does icy damage besides piercing damage, so it only does the icy damage. Not the piercing plus the icy damage, sadly.

Aug 31, 2008, 05:51 PM // 17:51	#18
AltFire Ascalonian Squire Join Date: Aug 2008 Profession: E/Mo	Thanks for the replies guys, greatly appreciated.